At a glance
How to read- Identity
- Confirmed
- Level
- 1.40m ceiling
- Price
- No ask · fair range $27,540–$38,232 · worth a call
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What to do next
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- Get a clear asking price and what is included before you wire anything.
Donner Vogel — Horse Scouts buyer research USEF #4754438 · DONNERLUCK 4389120-94 x GRETCHEN SONG DE 433339024000 · 22yo Level: ad .80m · records ~1.40m Price: no ask · fair $27,540–$38,232 Identity: High confidence Report: https://horsescouts.pro/r/donner-vogel?detail=full
Is the price fair?
No asking priceSimilar horses: $27,540 – $38,232 · mid $32,400. Ask the seller for their number.
Currently for sale
$21,500–$65,000
Asking prices of 120 comparable listings (context, not value)
Estimated value
$12,900–$39,000
Adjusted for this horse's record (-40% vs. band)
| Consistent height vs. listed band | -24% | Campaigns at 1m (career high 1.4m); comps priced a band higher |
|---|---|---|
| Performance vs. level & win rate | +8% | Verified level (1.40m+) above stated (under 0.95m) |
| Age / runway | -25% | Mature (14+) — short competitive runway |
Estimated value weights the horse's show record, rideability, age, and typical ask-to-sale gap. Decision aid, not a certified appraisal.
Fair market band
$27,540–$38,232
Based on comparable listing asks and show record — not sold prices or a certified appraisal.
We do not have an asking price to compare.
Budget beyond the purchase usually includes: PPE / vetting, shipping, sales commission (if you use an agent).
Similar listings in this band
- Mr GOOSE — $25,500 · 3'9" or 1.15m
- D.F. I've Got Rhythm — $29,500 · 2'0"
- So Be Secret — $100,000 · 3'0" or 0.90, 0.95m
Verified level (1.40m+) above stated (under 0.95m)
Market context
Priced from: BIGEQ (120)
- 8 similar listings in our sample.
- Asking prices run $12,000–$100,000.
Before you call the seller
Three questions to start — open Full research for contact info and the full checklist.
- Book a pre-purchase exam (PPE) with a vet you choose before you buy.
- Ask about past injuries, surgeries, or ongoing maintenance the vet should know about.
- Why is the horse for sale, and can you ride or trial the horse in person before you commit?
Does the ad check out?
ReviewSome items matched and others still need confirmation. Walk through the rows below with your trainer.
| What the ad says | Public records | Our read |
|---|---|---|
| USEF #4754438 | Same horse in USEF | Checks out |
| Sire: DONNERLUCK 4389120-94 | DONNERLUCK 4389120-94 | Checks out |
| Dam: GRETCHEN SONG DE 433339024000 | GRETCHEN SONG DE 433339024000 | Checks out |
| Jumps .80m | Show record ~1.40m | Checks out |
| Asking price | Fair range $27,540–$38,232 | Fair range only |
Is this the right horse?
High confidenceUSEF #4754438 and pedigree match the ad · chip …586612. Confirm microchip and papers match the horse you inspect.
- Born
- 13 Apr 2004
- Age
- 22 years old · USEF foal date
- Breed
- OLDENBURG
- Color
- BAY/BROWN
- Sex
- G
- Sire
- DONNERLUCK 4389120-94
- Dam
- GRETCHEN SONG DE 433339024000
- U.S. registry #
- 4754438
- Microchip
- 276098100586612
International record (FEI)
cross ref sire DONNERLUCK 4389120-94 · dam GRETCHEN SONG DE 433339024000 · verify on data.fei.org
Video
How long can you ride this horse?
This horse is 22 years old. If sound, you might get about 1–3 more years of useful jumping at this level.
Based on age band (Mature (14+)). Useful-years estimates follow FEI show-jumping age profiles: peak performance commonly occurs around ages 10–15, with many Grand Prix horses active into the mid-teens and beyond when sound. Horses 17+ are typically valued for current capability rather than long progression upside. [5][6]
Vet & pre-purchase exam
Sport-horse literature treats a pre-purchase exam (PPE) as a risk assessment — not pass/fail. Radiographic findings are common in sound jumpers and must be read in context of age, intended use, current performance, and price [1][2].
Before you buy, book an independent sport-horse vet you choose. Share this report so the exam can target gaps between seller claims and public records.
- Baseline PPE: soundness exam, flexions, and imaging scoped to price point and intended use [4].
- Veteran elite jumpers often continue successfully with accumulated radiographic change — interpret findings against current capability, not an ideal young-horse image.
- Ask whether the horse is suited to a lighter job or lower height rather than assuming imaging must be pristine.
- Current performance and recovery between shows are stronger predictors than isolated mild imaging findings.
- Ask for injury history, surgeries, joint maintenance, and any prior vet records the seller can share.
About 57% of prepurchase exams document at least one potentially prejudicial finding — presence alone does not predict future unsoundness [2]. Mild gait asymmetry is also common and may not correlate with clinical lameness [3].
Sources for vet & age guidance
- van Hoogmoed & Snyder (1999). van Hoogmoed LM, Snyder JR. Prepurchase Examination of Jumpers and Dressage Horses. AAEP Proceedings, 1999.
- Equine Veterinary Journal (2024). Equine Veterinary Journal. "Prejudicial Findings During Prepurchase Examinations," 2024.
- University of Utrecht (2022). University of Utrecht. Movement Asymmetries in Horses Presented for PPE and Lameness Evaluation, 2022.
- Merck Veterinary Manual. Merck Veterinary Manual. Prepurchase Examination of Horses.
- FEI Facts and Figures (2020). FEI Annual Report 2020 — average registered horse age 9.85 years; Jumping athlete demographics and age distribution.
- FEI / Bristol University longevity research. FEI Sports Forum (2026) — ongoing FEI–Bristol research on career longevity, competition intensity, and retirement factors in Jumping horses.
Horse Scouts summarizes published sport-horse veterinary literature for informational purposes only. It is not veterinary, legal, or financial advice and creates no legally binding obligation. Consult your own veterinarian before any purchase decision. See our Terms of Service.
Show record
Prize money
USEF prize money on file
Last competition
206 - 0.80M JUMPER · Placed DNP
Usage rate
No rounds in last 12 months
Goes for
Some amateur/junior mileage; rest in open divisions
Eliminations / retirements
Completed all 739 starts on record
Current level
Career high 1.4m
German national record (equi-score)
skipped No equi-score URL and no European show footprint to search on.
German and Austrian national shows (Kl. E/A/L/M/S) often do not appear on FEI or USEF. Paste an equi-score class result URL when you submit research to target a specific show.
- 7% win rate — about average compared to similar listed jumpers at 1.40m+ (median ~11.5%, based on 12 horses with records).
U.S. record (USEF)
confirmed 739 USEF class starts · 54 wins (7% win rate) · heights: 000, 0.80, 0.90, 1.0, 1.00, 1.05, 1.08, 1.10, 1.15, 1.20, 1.25, 1.30, 1.35, 1.40, 3, 80, 85, 90, 95, 100, 250, 500, 2500, 4000m · sire DONNERLUCK 4389120-94
Last competed: Jul 14, 2024
| Date | Class | Placing | Rider |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jul 14, 2024 | 0.80m · 206 - 0.80M JUMPER | DNP | MORGAN HART |
| Jul 14, 2024 | 0.80m · 207 - 0.80M JUMPER | DNP | MORGAN HART |
| Jul 14, 2024 | 408 - $1,000 JR/AM PUDDLE JUMPER CLASSIC | 4 | MORGAN HART |
| Jun 16, 2024 | 0.80m · 501 - .80m Schooling Jumper II | 1 | MORGAN HART |
| Jun 16, 2024 | 0.85m · 505 - .85m Junior/Amateur Jumper IVb | 3 | MORGAN HART |
| Jun 16, 2024 | 0.85m · 506 - $500 .85m Junior/Amateur Jumper Stake II2b | DNP | MORGAN HART |
Ask the seller
Full question checklist
This report summarizes public records only. Always verify answers with the seller, your trainer, and your vet before you buy.
What the seller says Unverified seller copy
Level advertised: .80m
Seller statements are unverified until USEF, video, and your own inspection back them up.
Similar horses for sale 8 listings
Comparable listings span $12,000–$100,000 — price reflects age, show record, bloodlines, and seller positioning, not jump height alone.
| Horse | Age | Price | Level | Days listed | Win rate | Listing |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mr GOOSE | 5 | Lease $25,500 | 3'9" or 1.15m | 61 days | — | View |
| D.F. I've Got Rhythm | 17 | Lease $20,000–$39,000 | 2'0" | 8 days | — | View |
| So Be Secret | 12 | $100,000 | 3'0" or 0.90, 0.95m | 61 days | — | View |
| Rosmels Stormtrooper | 11 | $50,000 | 2'3" or 0.7m | 1 day | — | View |
| Liberty Hill | 10 | $65,000 | 2'3" or 0.7m | 62 days | — | View |
| Unbuckled | NaN | Lease $12,000 | 2'0" | 62 days | — | View |
| Mr Sherlock Holmes | 5 | $25,000 | 3'9" or 1.15m | 66 days | — | View |
| Behind The Bit | 18 | $17,000 | 2'9" or 0.85m | 85 days | — | View |
What we could not verify3 gaps
Use these if your trainer wants detail — not a reason to panic on their own.
- No confirmed ClipMyHorse horse profile — use the search link for possible videos and verify identity.
- No asking price on file — we show a fair range, not a deal verdict.
- No asking price captured — we cannot flag overstatement against a seller number.
Sources & import costs
Where we looked
| Source | Status | Notes | Link |
|---|---|---|---|
| U.S. show registry (USEF) | confirmed | 739 USEF class starts · 54 wins (7% win rate) · heights: 000, 0.80, 0.90, 1.0, 1.00, 1.05, 1.08, 1.10, 1.15, 1.20, 1.25, 1.30, 1.35, 1.40, 3, 80, 85, 90, 95, 100, 250, 500, 2500, 4000m · sire DONNERLUCK 4389120-94 | Open |
| International registry (FEI) | cross_ref | sire DONNERLUCK 4389120-94 · dam GRETCHEN SONG DE 433339024000 · verify on data.fei.org | Open |
| Pedigree (HorseTelex) | no_match | USEF sire/dam on file but no pedigree row scored ≥ 10 | Open |
| German national results (equi-score) | skipped | No equi-score URL and no European show footprint to search on. | — |
| Show video (ClipMyHorse) | partial | ClipMyHorse error: Navigation timeout of 90000 ms exceeded | Open |
Import costs & logistics
U.S. show jumping relies heavily on imported European warmbloods (KWPN, BWP, Holsteiner, Oldenburg, Selle Français, and others). The listing price is often only part of the investment — veterinary, transport, quarantine, customs, and insurance can add roughly 10–30% or more to landed cost [3].
Estimate for this horse
This listing appears to be in the U.S. — no international import is required for domestic delivery. If you source from Europe instead, use the categories and illustrative totals below as a planning guide.
Typical cost categories
| Category | Typical range | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Pre-purchase exam (PPE) | $1,000–$3,500+ | Independent vet exam before purchase — not part of shipping but essential risk management. |
| Export testing & documentation | $500–$3,000 | Health certificates, blood tests, and government export paperwork (varies by origin country). |
| International air transport | $10,000–$25,000+ | Largest logistics cost — shared vs. private stall, route, and season affect pricing. |
| Quarantine & federal inspection | $1,000–$5,000+ | USDA port inspection and quarantine length depend on origin disease status (often 3–7 days for EU geldings). |
| Customs & import brokerage | $500–$2,000 | Specialized equine brokers coordinate USDA, customs entry, and airport logistics. |
| Ground transportation | $500–$3,000+ | Seller to export airport, then U.S. arrival port to your barn. |
| Mortality / transit insurance | 1–4% of value / yr | Many buyers insure during transport; annual mortality often scales with horse value. |
Illustrative landed totals
Planning bands — actual costs vary by origin, sex (CEM rules for mares/stallions), route, and broker.
| Purchase price | Typical import stack | Est. landed cost |
|---|---|---|
| $50,000 | $12,000–$20,000 | $62,000–$70,000 |
| $100,000 | $12,000–$25,000 | $112,000–$125,000 |
| $250,000 | $15,000–$35,000 | $265,000–$285,000 |
Evaluate landed cost, not purchase price alone, when comparing to U.S. comps or judging resale potential. Ask the seller for export readiness, quarantine port, and who coordinates USDA paperwork.
Sources for import & logistics
- USDA APHIS. USDA Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service. Importing live equines — permits, port inspection, and quarantine requirements.
- US Equestrian. USEF. International travel for horses — health documents, quarantine ports, and planning timelines.
- Aguilera (2020). Aguilera M. Global Horse Trade in the United States: 1981–2013. Society and Animals — documents the shift to European sport-horse imports in U.S. jumping.
- Kingston Stables. Kingston Stables. EU→U.S. all-in shipping guide (flight, papers, USDA quarantine) — industry planning benchmark.
Comparable metrics
Market sample: 120 similar listings · median $40,000 · interquartile $21,500–$65,000.
Comparable listings by marketplace: BIGEQ (120) · catalog 2026-08-03.
Stated level 0.8m vs verified 1.4m in public records.
Report date: 2026-07-04. Pricing uses BIGEQ (120) listings (catalog: BIGEQ · 2026-08-03 · HJx · 2026-08-03 · ProEquest · 2026-08-03).
Automated buyer research from public records — not a pre-purchase exam, veterinary opinion, or guarantee of seller claims. Verify identity, price, and soundness with your team before you buy.