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- No ask · fair range $34,808–$48,321 · worth a call
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What to do next
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- If your trainer is interested, ask for a recent show video at your target level.
- Get a clear asking price and what is included before you wire anything.
Counterpoint — Horse Scouts buyer research USEF #5679025 · WELLEN GOLD POINT x SHENANDOAH FANTASIA · 6yo Price: no ask · fair $34,808–$48,321 Identity: High confidence Report: https://horsescouts.pro/r/counterpoint?detail=full
Is the price fair?
No asking priceSimilar horses: $34,808 – $48,321 · mid $40,950. Ask the seller for their number.
Currently for sale
$23,125–$50,000
Asking prices of 10 comparable listings (context, not value)
Estimated value
$26,363–$57,000
Adjusted for this horse's record (+14% vs. band)
| Performance vs. level & win rate | +5% | USEF pony division on file — fence height inferred from size division when available; Strong USEF win rate (43%) |
|---|---|---|
| Amateur-proven | +3% | 83% of starts in amateur/junior divisions |
| Age / runway | +6% | Developing (6–9) — long competitive runway + resale optionality |
Estimated value weights the horse's show record, rideability, age, and typical ask-to-sale gap. Decision aid, not a certified appraisal.
Fair market band
$34,808–$48,321
Based on comparable listing asks and show record — not sold prices or a certified appraisal.
We do not have an asking price to compare.
Budget beyond the purchase usually includes: PPE / vetting, shipping, sales commission (if you use an agent).
Similar listings in this band
- Manuka Honey — $45,000 · 2'3" or 0.7m
- Wray Acres Sophira — $33,000 · 3'0" or 0.90, 0.95m
- Mulberry Magic “Boba” — $22,500 · 2'0"
USEF pony division on file — fence height inferred from size division when available
Market context
Priced from: BIGEQ (10)
- 8 similar listings in our sample.
- Asking prices run $17,500–$75,000.
Before you call the seller
Three questions to start — open Full research for contact info and the full checklist.
- Book a pre-purchase exam (PPE) with a vet you choose before you buy.
- Ask about past injuries, surgeries, or ongoing maintenance the vet should know about.
- Why is the horse for sale, and can you ride or trial the horse in person before you commit?
Does the ad check out?
ReviewSome items matched and others still need confirmation. Walk through the rows below with your trainer.
| What the ad says | Public records | Our read |
|---|---|---|
| USEF #5679025 | Same horse in USEF | Checks out |
| Sire: WELLEN GOLD POINT | WELLEN GOLD POINT | Checks out |
| Dam: SHENANDOAH FANTASIA | SHENANDOAH FANTASIA | Checks out |
| Asking price | Fair range $34,808–$48,321 | Fair range only |
Is this the right horse?
High confidenceUSEF #5679025 and pedigree match the ad · chip …772824. Confirm microchip and papers match the horse you inspect.
- Born
- 1 Jan 2020
- Age
- 6 years old · USEF foal date
- Breed
- WELSH PONY CROSS
- Color
- CHESTNUT
- Sex
- Mare
- Sire
- WELLEN GOLD POINT
- Dam
- SHENANDOAH FANTASIA
- U.S. registry #
- 5679025
- Microchip
- 981020035772824
International record (FEI)
cross ref sire WELLEN GOLD POINT · dam SHENANDOAH FANTASIA · verify on data.fei.org
Video
How long can you ride this horse?
This horse is 6 years old. If sound, you might get about 6–10 more years of useful jumping at this level.
Based on age band (Developing (6–9)). Useful-years estimates follow FEI show-jumping age profiles: peak performance commonly occurs around ages 10–15, with many Grand Prix horses active into the mid-teens and beyond when sound. At 6, the horse is still in a developing window — PPE findings should be weighed against upside to the stated level. [5][6]
Vet & pre-purchase exam
Sport-horse literature treats a pre-purchase exam (PPE) as a risk assessment — not pass/fail. Radiographic findings are common in sound jumpers and must be read in context of age, intended use, current performance, and price [1][2].
Before you buy, book an independent sport-horse vet you choose. Share this report so the exam can target gaps between seller claims and public records.
- Baseline PPE: soundness exam, flexions, and imaging scoped to price point and intended use [4].
- At this age, expect minimal degenerative change on imaging — clean hocks, minimal fetlock or navicular remodeling.
- Findings that warrant extra scrutiny: significant osteoarthritis, advanced remodeling, or chronic soft-tissue injury.
- Literature supports interpreting mild isolated radiographic changes cautiously when the horse is currently sound and performing.
- Ask for injury history, surgeries, joint maintenance, and any prior vet records the seller can share.
About 57% of prepurchase exams document at least one potentially prejudicial finding — presence alone does not predict future unsoundness [2]. Mild gait asymmetry is also common and may not correlate with clinical lameness [3].
Sources for vet & age guidance
- van Hoogmoed & Snyder (1999). van Hoogmoed LM, Snyder JR. Prepurchase Examination of Jumpers and Dressage Horses. AAEP Proceedings, 1999.
- Equine Veterinary Journal (2024). Equine Veterinary Journal. "Prejudicial Findings During Prepurchase Examinations," 2024.
- University of Utrecht (2022). University of Utrecht. Movement Asymmetries in Horses Presented for PPE and Lameness Evaluation, 2022.
- Merck Veterinary Manual. Merck Veterinary Manual. Prepurchase Examination of Horses.
- FEI Facts and Figures (2020). FEI Annual Report 2020 — average registered horse age 9.85 years; Jumping athlete demographics and age distribution.
- FEI / Bristol University longevity research. FEI Sports Forum (2026) — ongoing FEI–Bristol research on career longevity, competition intensity, and retirement factors in Jumping horses.
Horse Scouts summarizes published sport-horse veterinary literature for informational purposes only. It is not veterinary, legal, or financial advice and creates no legally binding obligation. Consult your own veterinarian before any purchase decision. See our Terms of Service.
Show record
Prize money
USEF prize money on file
Last competition
69 - Green Pony Hunter 2'3"/2'6"/2'9" Model · Placed 1
Usage rate
30 starts, active 5 of the last 12 months
Goes for
83% of starts in amateur/junior divisions
Eliminations / retirements
Completed all 30 starts on record
German national record (equi-score)
skipped No equi-score URL and no European show footprint to search on.
German and Austrian national shows (Kl. E/A/L/M/S) often do not appear on FEI or USEF. Paste an equi-score class result URL when you submit research to target a specific show.
- 30 USEF class starts · 13 wins (43% win rate) · sire WELLEN GOLD POINT (no YOB on dossier — set identity.yob for full career range)
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U.S. record (USEF)
confirmed 30 USEF class starts · 13 wins (43% win rate) · sire WELLEN GOLD POINT (no YOB on dossier — set identity.yob for full career range)
Last competed: May 24, 2026
| Date | Class | Placing | Rider |
|---|---|---|---|
| May 24, 2026 | 69 - Green Pony Hunter 2'3"/2'6"/2'9" Model | 1 | CORA KNEPPER |
| May 24, 2026 | 70 - Green Pony Hunter 2'3"/2'6"/2'9" Conformation - FP | 3 | CORA KNEPPER |
| May 24, 2026 | 71 - Green Pony Hunter 2'3"/2'6"/2'9" Over Fences * | 1 | CORA KNEPPER |
| May 24, 2026 | 72 - Green Pony Hunter 2'3"/2'6"/2'9" Over Fences | 1 | CORA KNEPPER |
| May 24, 2026 | 73 - Green Pony Hunter 2'3"/2'6"/2'9" Under Saddle | 1 | CORA KNEPPER |
| May 24, 2026 | GPHC - Green Pony Hunter 2'3"/2'6"/2'9" CHAMPIONSHIP | 1 | CORA KNEPPER |
Ask the seller
Full question checklist
This report summarizes public records only. Always verify answers with the seller, your trainer, and your vet before you buy.
What the seller says Pasted ad text · tap to expand
Counterpoint Counterpoint Usef- 5679025 6 years old 13.2h Tatum is an extremely classy, kind, and straightforward mare available for lease. Hack winner, great jump, easy lead change and a beautiful, classic way of going. She has been champion or reserve almost every time out this year in the division and is qualified for Pony Derby Finals 2027. Was 12th in the model and 18th under saddle at Pony Finals and marched around the Rolex like she had done it a million times. She is a total professional to horse show and never cares to see a ring or jumps. Has always been very easy and went from mini stirrup to the division in under 2 years with her current kid(and as a green pony!). Tatum is a joy to be around and live with. Will only consider programs who prioritize quality of life for the horses and will allow her plenty of turn out and time to be a pony. She has been very thoughtfully brought along and is dearly loved! Borrow only. Can be tried in York, Pa. mid/high 5s for the year.
Seller statements are unverified until USEF, video, and your own inspection back them up.
Similar horses for sale 8 listings
Comparable listings span $17,500–$75,000 — price reflects age, show record, bloodlines, and seller positioning, not jump height alone.
| Horse | Age | Price | Level | Days listed | Win rate | Listing |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Manuka Honey | 8 | $45,000 | 2'3" or 0.7m | 55 days | — | View |
| Wray Acres Sophira | 11 | $33,000 | 3'0" or 0.90, 0.95m | 52 days | — | View |
| Mulberry Magic “Boba” | 5 | $22,500 | 2'0" | 23 days | — | View |
| Encore | 10 | $50,000 | 2'6" or 0.75, 0.80m | 83 days | — | View |
| Rosmels Stormtrooper | 11 | $50,000 | 2'3" or 0.7m | 8 days | — | View |
| Call Me A Taxi | 11 | $25,000 | 2'6" or 0.75, 0.80m | 62 days | — | View |
| Chance of a Lifetime | 12 | $75,000 | 3'0" or 0.90, 0.95m | 48 days | — | View |
| Macho Man | 14 | $17,500 | 2'0" | 178 days | — | View |
What we could not verify3 gaps
Use these if your trainer wants detail — not a reason to panic on their own.
- No confirmed ClipMyHorse horse profile — use the search link for possible videos and verify identity.
- No asking price on file — we show a fair range, not a deal verdict.
- No asking price captured — we cannot flag overstatement against a seller number.
Sources & import costs
Where we looked
| Source | Status | Notes | Link |
|---|---|---|---|
| U.S. show registry (USEF) | confirmed | 30 USEF class starts · 13 wins (43% win rate) · sire WELLEN GOLD POINT (no YOB on dossier — set identity.yob for full career range) | Open |
| International registry (FEI) | cross_ref | sire WELLEN GOLD POINT · dam SHENANDOAH FANTASIA · verify on data.fei.org | Open |
| Pedigree (HorseTelex) | no_match | No row matched sire/dam | Open |
| German national results (equi-score) | skipped | No equi-score URL and no European show footprint to search on. | — |
| Show video (ClipMyHorse) | no_match | No confirmed ClipMyHorse horse profile for "Counterpoint" — open search by name; videos may appear (verify it's the same horse). | Open |
Import costs & logistics
U.S. show jumping relies heavily on imported European warmbloods (KWPN, BWP, Holsteiner, Oldenburg, Selle Français, and others). The listing price is often only part of the investment — veterinary, transport, quarantine, customs, and insurance can add roughly 10–30% or more to landed cost [3].
Estimate for this horse
This listing appears to be in the U.S. — no international import is required for domestic delivery. If you source from Europe instead, use the categories and illustrative totals below as a planning guide.
Typical cost categories
| Category | Typical range | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Pre-purchase exam (PPE) | $1,000–$3,500+ | Independent vet exam before purchase — not part of shipping but essential risk management. |
| Export testing & documentation | $500–$3,000 | Health certificates, blood tests, and government export paperwork (varies by origin country). |
| International air transport | $10,000–$25,000+ | Largest logistics cost — shared vs. private stall, route, and season affect pricing. |
| Quarantine & federal inspection | $1,000–$5,000+ | USDA port inspection and quarantine length depend on origin disease status (often 3–7 days for EU geldings). |
| Customs & import brokerage | $500–$2,000 | Specialized equine brokers coordinate USDA, customs entry, and airport logistics. |
| Ground transportation | $500–$3,000+ | Seller to export airport, then U.S. arrival port to your barn. |
| Mortality / transit insurance | 1–4% of value / yr | Many buyers insure during transport; annual mortality often scales with horse value. |
Illustrative landed totals
Planning bands — actual costs vary by origin, sex (CEM rules for mares/stallions), route, and broker.
| Purchase price | Typical import stack | Est. landed cost |
|---|---|---|
| $50,000 | $12,000–$20,000 | $62,000–$70,000 |
| $100,000 | $12,000–$25,000 | $112,000–$125,000 |
| $250,000 | $15,000–$35,000 | $265,000–$285,000 |
Evaluate landed cost, not purchase price alone, when comparing to U.S. comps or judging resale potential. Ask the seller for export readiness, quarantine port, and who coordinates USDA paperwork.
Sources for import & logistics
- USDA APHIS. USDA Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service. Importing live equines — permits, port inspection, and quarantine requirements.
- US Equestrian. USEF. International travel for horses — health documents, quarantine ports, and planning timelines.
- Aguilera (2020). Aguilera M. Global Horse Trade in the United States: 1981–2013. Society and Animals — documents the shift to European sport-horse imports in U.S. jumping.
- Kingston Stables. Kingston Stables. EU→U.S. all-in shipping guide (flight, papers, USDA quarantine) — industry planning benchmark.
Comparable metrics
Market sample: 10 similar listings · median $39,000 · interquartile $23,125–$50,000.
Comparable listings by marketplace: BIGEQ (10) · catalog 2026-08-10.
Report date: 2026-08-15. Pricing uses BIGEQ (10) listings (catalog: BIGEQ · 2026-08-10 · HJx · 2026-08-10 · ProEquest · 2026-08-10).
Automated buyer research from public records — not a pre-purchase exam, veterinary opinion, or guarantee of seller claims. Verify identity, price, and soundness with your team before you buy.